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Sep 09 2009

Convention Fans @ Dragon*con: The William Shatner / Leonard Nimoy Panel Report

Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner at Dragon*con 2009 (photo by Dan Fowler)Nothing was more talked about at Dragon*con 2009 than the William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy panel. While Nimoy had been on the guest list for a number of months, Shatner had been a late addition. So late in fact, that many programming directors had already submitted their schedules. With so many big name guests already taking up the largest ballroom time slots, what in the world were they going to do with Shatner?

The answer arrived when the Dragon*con pocket program became available online. Shatner would be doing only one panel, and it would be with Nimoy at 10 a.m. Friday morning. That’s right, one of the first events of the entire convention. This news meant some fans had to readjust their travel and registration pick up plans. Fans were talking about sleeping outside the ballroom entrance just to ensure a front row seat. Dragon*con staff came back and said no lining up more than 2 hours before the event. There was confusion and frustration in abundance. On top of that, the location of the panel was changed between the printing of the schedules and the arrival of attendees.

And so, with all of this brewing, the Convention Fans crew planned to get in line for said Friday morning panel at exactly 2 hours in advance.

William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy Panel, Dragon*con 2009 (photo by Dan Fowler)Now, we weren’t at the front of the line, so I can’t say for sure what transpired, but clearly people were allowed to line up more than 2 hours in advance, despite what staffers had been telling attendees. We showed up at 2 hours and 10 minutes before start time, and found ourselves in a line that went out of the Hyatt, and around two sides of the building.

We settled in, and prepared to stand there for about an hour and a half. In the past four years I’ve attended D*C, a panel has never been seated more than a half an hour in advance. So with an hour and a half to go until it started, we sent a member of our party to retrieve the camera he had forgotten.

But not five minutes later, the line began to move. They started to seat people with an hour and a half to go. Where we were in line, there were no staffers to tell us what we going on. In fact, the only staff we encountered were at the door leading into the ballroom, where we were told there was no saving seats. At this point, we were a bit perturbed. No one had said the panel would be seated early. No one had informed the line about the new no seat saving rule. Had we known, we never would have sent our friend to get his camera until after we had been seated.

Luckily, he managed to get there just as the argument with staff was reaching a head. It seems that D*C staff had finally gotten someone further back in the line giving out orders/directions, and they wouldn’t let our friend through to catch up with us. Staff finally relented, and we were all seated together. And you know what? No one would have noticed if we’d have saved a seat or not. Because once we got inside and sat down, staff virtually disappeared. But the whole experience had left a rather sour taste in our mouths.

While we waited for the next hour and a half, DC*TV was running, which was entertaining. They also filmed the DC*TV Late Late Show live in front of us, which again kept us occupied. This was all appreciated, but something we would have liked to have known in advance, so we could have avoided the earlier problems with staff.

William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy panel at Dragon*con 2009 (photo by Dan Fowler)After all of that waiting, the panel finally got started. The ballroom absolutely erupted! The epic nature of Nimoy and Shatner together on a stage was not lost on that audience. They seemed relaxed and at ease on the stage together.

The first part of the panel consisted of Nimoy and Shatner busting each other’s chops for the audience’s amusement. Shatner kept asking why he wasn’t in the new Star Trek movie, and made numerous references to his ongoing feud with George Takei (including what I would call some downright inappropriate comments). Shatner actually pretended not to know how to pronounce George’s last name correctly. But, Nimoy kept putting Shatner in his place with clever quips and observations. The audience roared with laughter.

The second portion of the panel consisted of questions from the audience. The TrekTrack crew (who handles Star Trek programming at Dragon*con) did an excellent job of screening questions and managing the lines of people. While some of the questions were a bit generic (as is to be expected), others were insightful and thought provoking. However, Nimoy and Shatner both tended to get off track, and found themselves going back to playfully picking on each other for a good five to ten minutes between questions. While this was funny for the audience, it meant there was less time for questions, which I’m sure disappointed some of the fans who had been standing in line for most of the panel.

TrekTrack Director Eric Watts teases William Shatner, who had mocked his beard earlier (photo by Dan Fowler)I did learn a few things as a result of the Q&A. For one, the blooper reels from the original series have been a point of contention for some of the Star Trek cast. The bloopers were originally intended for the cast and crew Christmas parties only. However, a few years later they were being circulated around the country, and fans were paying admission to see them. Shatner told the audience that he first found out they had been circulated after someone told him they were being shown in a local bar. Nimoy explained his discomfort with the reels being available, and it was one of the few serious moments during the entire panel discussion.

We also learned that Shatner has just recently completed interviews with Larry Flint and Rush Limbaugh for his Raw Nerve show, and they should be airing soon. Shatner also stated that he still has not seen the new Star Trek movie. Nimoy chimed in on the fact that a sequel to the new Star Trek movie was in the works, but that he had not yet been contacted about it (and did not expect to have a part in it).

Overall, the panel was extremely entertaining, and totally worth waiting in line for. I will say, however, that it has firmly reinforced my opinion that William Shatner is a big jerk, and that Leonard Nimoy is one of the most wonderfully articulate and charming Star Trek actors I have ever seen. Whereas Shatner made fun of the locals and their accent, and the panel host’s beard, Nimoy was quick to call Shatner out on it all.

You can view video of the entire panel by visiting this link, which has the footage split into 7 YouTube videos.

Look for the big overall Dragon*con convention report tomorrow!

Kelly and Dan of Convention Fans, with Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner, at Dragon*con 2009

Note: We did decide to fork out the money for the Nimoy/Shatner photo op, which is the photo you see above. You can read more about that fiasco later in the week. (And “fiasco” is an understatement.) 

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6 Responses to “Convention Fans @ Dragon*con: The William Shatner / Leonard Nimoy Panel Report”

  1. madrigalblueon 09 Sep 2009 at 10:18 pm edit this

    I have to ask…did Shatner smell weird? He strikes me as a guy who overdoes it with the cologne.

  2. dreadpirateroseon 09 Sep 2009 at 11:25 pm edit this

    @madrigalblue

    I didn’t even have a chance to smell him, lol. But for the record, some of the folks in our group thought maybe he was a wee bit intoxicated during his panel. But I think he’s just actually that obnoxious all the time. ;)

  3. Rosannaon 09 Sep 2009 at 11:59 pm edit this

    Based on how many times I’ve seen Shatner, he’s just that obnoxious. I’ve seen him several times over the span of the 20+ years that I’ve been going to conventions, and every time he’s been a jerk or self-absorbed and obnoxious.

    Nimoy is a delight. He is am amazingly multi-talented man with a great sense of humor. I have gladly purchased a chance to get his autograph at a convention that he did in Michigan with John de Lancie. It was one of the highlights of my convention years. I would gladly see him again and get another one if given the chance. I hope that he continues to have success in his endeavours.

    I had the chance before to pay $50 to get Shatner’s autograph, in fact I could have done that twice. I refused to do it, no matter how much of a legend the man is. His attitude should be encouraged by us paying him for it. The only reason I got to see him more than once was because he was booked with another person that I wanted to see. So, I suffered through his bit.

  4. Teresaon 10 Sep 2009 at 1:27 pm edit this

    I consider myself very lucky to have gotten in to see this panel, especially since I didn’t get to register until Fri morning. Since there were no Daily Dragons to be found, I had no idea it had been moved until one of the staffers right outside registration let me know otherwise. I went ahead and headed toward the new room, and luckily (again) I didn’t even have to stand in line. I was ushered right in and got a seat about a quarter of the way back from the stage! It was a great spot for my long lens on my camera thank goodness! Anyway, I really enjoyed watching the taping of the Late Late Show and watching the Fall On Your Sword video of “Shatner on the Mount” before the panel started. Considering how much of a jerk he acted during the panel and while signing, I’m extremely happy to mock him as much as I possibly can. Nimoy was definitely a pleasant sight and very likable. I loved how he constantly put Shatner in his place and wouldn’t let him get the last word. I had wanted to go to Nimoy’s second panel, but once I heard that Shatner had stuck around for that one as well, I decided against it. (What a glutton for attention!)

    With as big as this year’s D*Con was, how are they going to top that for next year? I’m actually getting worried…. :)

  5. Janeon 12 Sep 2009 at 8:24 pm edit this

    I wasn’t there, but did view the 7 part video of the Nimoy-Shatner bit on You Tube, and thoroughly enjoyed them both. Obnoxious Shatner may be, but the ebb and flow of his and Nimoy’s bit was so well timed and hilarious, that I can forgive him his personality flaws. Further, Nimoy comes to life in Shatner’s presence, as opposed to the dry, cerebral one sided conversation one would otherwise witness.

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